WEBVTT
00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:01.683
Who doesn't love a good laugh?
00:00:01.683 --> 00:00:02.725
I know I do.
00:00:02.725 --> 00:00:04.608
Who's your favorite comedian?
00:00:04.608 --> 00:00:13.012
For me it's hard to say now that I'm following Christ and I'm trying to live a more wholesome life.
00:00:13.012 --> 00:00:17.004
Back in the day I would have said David Spades always made me laugh.
00:00:17.004 --> 00:00:21.653
Joel McHale, chris Farley all the greats.
00:00:21.653 --> 00:00:29.646
I really like them, but there's one glaring problem and their comedy tends to be a little on the dirty side.
00:00:29.646 --> 00:00:31.269
I don't like that anymore.
00:00:31.269 --> 00:00:36.207
I'm not about that lifestyle, so therefore I have a hard time enjoying it.
00:00:36.207 --> 00:00:41.591
I still love a good Seinfeld episode, although that also has its problems sometimes.
00:00:41.591 --> 00:00:47.130
Frasier, that's another one of my favorites, but again, there's content issues.
00:00:47.130 --> 00:00:52.747
You can't have your kids wandering around because they might hear something that's not quite appropriate.
00:00:52.747 --> 00:00:58.530
Now here's the good news there are comedians out there who are making clean comedy.
00:00:58.530 --> 00:01:02.728
There's a whole bunch of them, and the best part is they're hilarious.
00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:08.546
And today's guest is a pastor slash budding comedian.
00:01:08.546 --> 00:01:11.677
I know it seems weird and maybe you're thinking crickets.
00:01:11.677 --> 00:01:15.489
That doesn't sound funny, but you're going to enjoy this episode.
00:01:15.489 --> 00:01:18.096
Michael Dennis is very funny.
00:01:18.096 --> 00:01:21.543
He's very humble and he's got some great stories to tell.
00:01:21.543 --> 00:01:22.703
Let's get to it.
00:01:22.703 --> 00:01:37.706
Before the episode starts, make sure you follow the show so you never miss another episode.
00:01:37.706 --> 00:01:40.581
Michael, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
00:01:40.581 --> 00:01:42.465
I'm very excited to talk to you.
00:01:42.465 --> 00:01:50.311
You are a pastor, but you're also a comedian, and when I saw you on Podmatch it says a funny pastor.
00:01:50.311 --> 00:01:54.048
I'm like that was intriguing enough for me to keep scrolling.
00:01:54.048 --> 00:01:58.506
I saw a comedian and I was like huh, now I'm really curious.
00:01:58.506 --> 00:01:59.769
So I had to have you on.
00:01:59.769 --> 00:02:01.111
How long have you been a pastor?
00:02:01.379 --> 00:02:05.691
first of all yeah, so just over 20 years years I've worked as a full-time pastor.
00:02:05.691 --> 00:02:06.091
Wow.
00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:11.512
Are you still a pastor today, or has your comedian career just taken off?
00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:14.049
Yeah, you know that is a common question.
00:02:14.049 --> 00:02:22.495
I work as a pastor right now, but the assumption is that I'm trying to parlay this into like a, you know, a comedy career.
00:02:22.495 --> 00:02:43.948
But really this is, I want to be a pastor, as long as the Lord allows me to do that, and the comedy is really just, you know, living in Austin and you know Joe Rogan is global, and then people are moving here, you know, because of what he's doing for our city, and so I kind of just stumbled into it and so it's just a hobby for me, but it's a lot of fun.
00:02:44.187 --> 00:02:46.070
Yeah, I would think that it is.
00:02:46.070 --> 00:02:48.153
I watch a lot of dry bar comedy.
00:02:48.153 --> 00:02:49.760
I don't know if you've heard of that yeah.
00:02:49.760 --> 00:02:57.383
And yeah, I love it, especially because it's clean and if my kids walk in I have to be like.
00:02:57.383 --> 00:02:58.264
Whoa, it's.
00:02:58.264 --> 00:03:01.549
It's a skill to be able to make clean comedy, I think.
00:03:01.889 --> 00:03:02.149
I am.
00:03:02.469 --> 00:03:06.716
I mean to make people laugh when you don't have to use dirty humor.
00:03:06.716 --> 00:03:13.722
You know like anyone can do that.
00:03:13.722 --> 00:03:17.373
It takes a real comedic genius to be able to make it completely clean a whole set and have people rolling on the floor laughing.
00:03:17.373 --> 00:03:20.102
So yeah, I commend anyone who does that.
00:03:20.102 --> 00:03:25.032
I don't even think I could I have more of the kind of comedy you would find in Seinfeld.
00:03:25.032 --> 00:03:28.265
It's more sarcastic and you kind of have to be.
00:03:28.426 --> 00:03:34.086
Yeah, you have to be in a situation and then I can come up with something really good, but I could never do stand up.
00:03:34.086 --> 00:03:35.831
I've got stage fright anyway.
00:03:35.831 --> 00:03:36.801
So there's that.
00:03:37.603 --> 00:03:39.146
Yeah, it is.
00:03:39.146 --> 00:03:43.760
I've been a pastor so I've been on a stage for 20 years, so that feels comfortable.
00:03:43.760 --> 00:03:57.956
But it is completely different walking up into a room full of strangers and within seconds try to make them laugh and it is intimidating and I mean, golly, there's just times I get off the stage and I'm like why did I do that to myself?
00:03:57.956 --> 00:04:05.462
You think is funny or what.
00:04:05.462 --> 00:04:08.878
You sit around with your friends and you're just assuming a lot of context that when you stand up in front of strangers you don't have that context.
00:04:08.878 --> 00:04:13.572
And so you got to try to get to the punchline with as few words as possible and it's hard.
00:04:14.180 --> 00:04:16.584
Yeah, how was your first time doing it?
00:04:16.584 --> 00:04:20.432
How did you feel physically and emotionally?
00:04:20.432 --> 00:04:21.293
How did it go?
00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:25.651
Yeah, it was a blur, and so I'm a very process-oriented person.
00:04:25.651 --> 00:04:29.327
So, like even with sermons, I manuscript.
00:04:29.327 --> 00:04:43.348
I'm all about preparation, and so I spent months thinking about what I wanted to talk about, went and watched other people do it, and so I knew what I was, to try to basically calm my nerves and be prepared as possible.
00:04:43.348 --> 00:04:44.870
And I got done.
00:04:44.870 --> 00:04:51.250
It was only four minutes and at an open mic, and I go to my wife and I say how was it?
00:04:51.250 --> 00:04:52.793
Because I don't remember anything.
00:04:52.834 --> 00:04:55.047
I just said I mean it was just a complete blur.
00:04:55.307 --> 00:04:55.769
What did she?
00:04:55.848 --> 00:05:01.391
say Well, my wife is amazing as a pastor, like every sermon I've ever done.
00:05:01.391 --> 00:05:03.564
When I get done, she says that was amazing.
00:05:03.985 --> 00:05:04.908
And I know that's not true.
00:05:04.908 --> 00:05:09.110
She's very supportive, very supportive.
00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:19.269
And yet when it came to the comedy, she says you need to be more funny and so, just like you need more funny parts.
00:05:19.269 --> 00:05:29.670
And she was right, you know, because I'm used to having maybe three to five minutes to explain something and so you just have a lot of dead time to get to a funny part.
00:05:29.670 --> 00:05:33.449
So they say you're supposed to go for a punchline every 10 seconds.
00:05:34.552 --> 00:05:39.531
Yeah, I mean hey, at least you heard it from a source that loves you, right?
00:05:39.531 --> 00:05:48.235
You could have heard it from some harsh person who had choice words for you on how quote unquote well, you did.
00:05:48.235 --> 00:05:53.064
I mean constructive criticism is.
00:05:53.064 --> 00:06:05.197
It's difficult to hear, but I think it's a wise person who can handle it and respectfully listen to it and mull it over and tweak things accordingly.
00:06:06.641 --> 00:06:09.387
I've had people have to do that for me with the podcast.
00:06:09.387 --> 00:06:18.600
You know, and you either get mad at them or you realize that it comes from a place of love and respect for you, that they're wanting to help you.
00:06:19.562 --> 00:06:20.343
Yeah, she was right.
00:06:20.343 --> 00:06:26.024
I mean, by the time I got to my car I was like I think I could, I could, I could do it make.
00:06:26.024 --> 00:06:27.149
I think I could make it funnier.
00:06:27.149 --> 00:06:29.605
And then my second time it was even worse.
00:06:29.605 --> 00:06:44.125
And then the third time is when I started I talk about being a pastor, and so I just kind of take advantage of that tension, because you have this context of where people are talking about really you know, graphic parts of humanity.
00:06:44.125 --> 00:06:51.315
And then I stand up and within a first sentence I'm like I'm a pastor, crickets, yeah.
00:06:51.315 --> 00:06:54.970
So I try to take advantage of that.
00:06:54.970 --> 00:07:08.213
And then I've just been really encouraged by how well people have responded, not necessarily to the comedy, but just the fact that I'm a pastor doing this, that there's been no attempt to kind of run me off or shut me down or shut me out.
00:07:08.213 --> 00:07:14.694
It's been just incredibly welcoming and friendly environment, and so that's been a huge benefit.
00:07:14.853 --> 00:07:17.081
Has your congregation been supportive of it?
00:07:17.380 --> 00:07:18.041
Oh for sure.
00:07:18.041 --> 00:07:29.692
And I was nervous early on because, at the end of the day, I don't I don't care that much about this that it's going to take the place of being a pastor.
00:07:30.095 --> 00:07:36.632
So I didn't want to give the impression that I was chasing after other things, but they, they just think it's, you know, silly and funny.
00:07:36.632 --> 00:07:38.940
I mean, one person in my church said you're not even that funny.
00:07:38.940 --> 00:07:40.362
What makes you think you can do this?
00:07:40.362 --> 00:07:45.904
I was like thanks, because like I'm not doing, I might say something laughter in the middle of a sermon.
00:08:08.899 --> 00:08:10.759
And sometimes he's not trying to either.
00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.440
I think that's the best kind of comedians, you know.
00:08:13.440 --> 00:08:15.408
They just kind of have that air about them.
00:08:15.408 --> 00:08:22.930
They're not really out there trying to make you laugh, they just they say something and it makes you laugh.
00:08:22.930 --> 00:08:32.230
I love the people who have dry humor, because they're not there for a show, they're just there being dry humor and it's hilarious to me.
00:08:32.230 --> 00:08:41.413
Have you had an experience at one of these comedy clubs that made you question if you wanted to continue doing it?
00:08:41.413 --> 00:08:53.962
Because I know a lot of times the comedy clubs have different types of comedians, so they may have colorful language, they may be talking about things that are not what you would be talking about.
00:08:53.962 --> 00:09:00.224
Do you ever have moments, or have you ever had moments, where you felt this may not be where you belong?
00:09:00.303 --> 00:09:02.207
100 like you know there's.
00:09:02.207 --> 00:09:12.922
I mean I've had other guys tell me like I can't put you on our show because you're going to change the whole, the whole temperature of of the room and you know the whole vibe.
00:09:12.922 --> 00:09:22.793
And we're in Austin, so it's a city and there's mostly it's mostly 20 year olds that are chasing after this dream and a lot of them are relying on shock and awe, mm-hmm.
00:09:23.475 --> 00:09:30.980
And then people are out drinking and laughing and having a good time, and then I'm up you know, it's a little kind of goody two-shoe kind of contrast.
00:09:30.980 --> 00:09:33.140
And I tell them I'm like, hey, you can make fun of me.
00:09:33.140 --> 00:09:37.663
And some of them have, but it is kind of like with fingers crossed, how's this going to go?
00:09:37.663 --> 00:09:41.025
Because you don't know how the room is going to respond.
00:09:41.025 --> 00:09:46.308
And so that's definitely had me have moments where I'm like, why, why am I doing this?
00:09:46.308 --> 00:09:53.918
And, and I think Nashville, I've been told, has a lot of clean comics because of guys like Nate Bargatze and others, but Austin really doesn't.
00:09:54.219 --> 00:10:05.325
There's really not very many and I just got asked to do a comedy show at a lock-in for high school students at 3 am 3 am.
00:10:05.946 --> 00:10:06.306
Yes.
00:10:06.726 --> 00:10:16.278
And and they, they basically tell me they're like we want to make sure you're, like we need squeaky clean comics and there's not a lot of you will you do it, and so I'm one of.
00:10:16.278 --> 00:10:19.078
You know other a few others they found, but they're just not.
00:10:19.078 --> 00:10:25.482
So I'm kind of you know they're looking at the bottom of the barrel to find you know clean comics, and but that's okay.
00:10:25.482 --> 00:10:28.520
So I kind of have taken this approach more work for you guys, then.
00:10:28.975 --> 00:10:32.706
Yeah, I'm going to say yes to everything that comes my way, so we'll see how that goes.
00:10:33.115 --> 00:10:34.558
Yeah, I'm sure it'll be good.
00:10:34.558 --> 00:10:37.826
Teenagers, they can be a tough crowd though.
00:10:38.515 --> 00:10:40.520
I don't even like teaching teenagers in our church.
00:10:40.520 --> 00:10:44.538
I'm not that guy, yeah.
00:10:44.538 --> 00:10:54.115
So I don't know how my wife was like why are you, are you doing this and well it'll be a good challenge she sounds hilarious too, you guys should do a duo together sometime?
00:10:55.878 --> 00:11:00.886
do you have aspirations to maybe go on dry bar comedy.
00:11:01.126 --> 00:11:02.028
I mean that would be great.
00:11:02.028 --> 00:11:03.317
I think it's really hard.
00:11:03.576 --> 00:11:05.240
I don't even know how good on.
00:11:05.500 --> 00:11:07.105
I think I was told you have to.
00:11:07.105 --> 00:11:10.923
Basically, it's like the mafia you have to get people that will vouch for you.
00:11:10.923 --> 00:11:17.607
So really well, maybe other touring comedians have to, kind of, you know, say like yeah, you should put them up.
00:11:17.607 --> 00:11:19.763
And you know what's that phrase about.
00:11:19.763 --> 00:11:21.081
You know you got to put in your time.
00:11:21.635 --> 00:11:24.224
I think they put in the work and everything yeah.
00:11:24.384 --> 00:11:29.116
Yeah, and I've definitely.
00:11:29.116 --> 00:11:32.144
I've only done it a little over a year, but every time, even if I'm just watching a show I'm learning.
00:11:32.144 --> 00:11:41.557
It's almost like a magic act with words and there's just so much kind of taking place with tone and word and pauses, like it makes all the difference.
00:11:41.857 --> 00:11:44.583
Yeah, so you have two grown children, right.
00:11:44.583 --> 00:11:46.668
What do they think of this?
00:11:46.668 --> 00:11:47.659
Are they supportive?
00:11:47.659 --> 00:11:48.001
Do they are they?
00:11:48.001 --> 00:11:49.048
Are they like, oh, dad, you do they think of this?
00:11:49.048 --> 00:11:49.591
Are they supportive?
00:11:49.591 --> 00:11:53.883
Are they like, oh dad, you're embarrassing us, or something?
00:11:53.942 --> 00:12:02.105
Yeah, I think it started with what is he doing and then it transitioned to this is kind of sad, why is he doing this?
00:12:02.105 --> 00:12:16.327
And then I think, now they've come, our church has been doing some clean comedy shows, and so my son came to one and he saw other people laughing and he's like, oh, that was funny.
00:12:16.327 --> 00:12:26.948
So they just they haven't really had a chance to experience it yet and I mean, nothing in my life has indicated that this is going to be a track for me.
00:12:27.335 --> 00:12:28.697
And so it really came out of nowhere.
00:12:28.937 --> 00:12:29.158
Yeah.
00:12:29.158 --> 00:12:34.087
So how did you stumble into this after being a pastor?
00:12:34.087 --> 00:12:36.938
Did you just have so much comedy gold?
00:12:36.938 --> 00:12:41.434
I guess from some of the stuff that you're just like, you know what I can use this.
00:12:41.434 --> 00:12:43.859
Or was there a different way that it came about?
00:12:44.038 --> 00:12:49.307
Yeah, I kind of I try to make a joke about that Like this guy hasn't got enough stage time already, he's got to come and do this.
00:12:49.307 --> 00:12:51.289
How much does he love being in front of people.
00:12:51.289 --> 00:13:05.159
It really came out of, you know, during the pandemic I was hanging out with some friends and in a sermon a couple of people will laugh, and so I thought, well, could I make strangers laugh, Because it's just different.
00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:10.480
And so I just kind of came as a bucket list, kind of dare, kind of do one time.
00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.913
I never anticipated that it would go further than that.
00:13:13.475 --> 00:13:14.557
That's how God works.
00:13:14.557 --> 00:13:22.904
Some of the stuff that we think is just a hobby or something fun, let's try it once, and then he does something with it.
00:13:23.086 --> 00:13:26.340
I mean yeah, early on there was somebody in my church.
00:13:26.340 --> 00:13:30.442
She said you should talk about being a pastor and I said that would be the worst idea.
00:13:30.442 --> 00:13:32.357
That's not.
00:13:32.357 --> 00:13:33.763
No, I'm not going to do that.
00:13:33.763 --> 00:13:40.100
And because I don't want to make fun of the church, I don't want to make fun of the world, and I was like so what am I?
00:13:40.100 --> 00:13:41.500
How am I supposed to do this?
00:13:41.500 --> 00:13:58.143
And then God just kind of gave me some ideas to try, and the first time I tried it somebody came up to me and they said, as soon as you said you were a pastor, like I started listening and that really just stood out to me of like there is something unique and most people they don't know pastors.
00:13:58.143 --> 00:14:08.065
So, aside from maybe somebody on TV, you know, and it's usually a negative portrayal and so I'm a little bit of a novelty to them also.
00:14:08.065 --> 00:14:17.642
And so that's been really the best part is getting to know these other people that are pursuing comedy and just getting in their world a little bit and building relationships with them.
00:14:17.883 --> 00:14:25.086
Yeah, I would think that that's a very good evangelism type of opportunity, a very unique one too.
00:14:25.106 --> 00:14:26.048
Yeah.
00:14:26.554 --> 00:14:28.559
With some of the stuff that they joke about.
00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:30.986
I'm pretty sure they don't go anywhere near church.
00:14:30.986 --> 00:14:41.083
So to be near someone who is and see that there's a different side to comedy, see how you interact with them, it'll give them a new perspective of you know.
00:14:41.083 --> 00:14:54.385
Maybe church people aren't as bad as I've thought before, or maybe they can be funny, because a lot of times they think we're prudes or we're stuffy, we're boring, we don't do all these things.
00:14:54.385 --> 00:14:58.259
They can see that, yeah, we do, we just do them differently.
00:14:58.259 --> 00:15:07.672
We do them in a way that brings people joy and happiness, and you don't have to use colorful language or awkward things that make people feel uncomfortable.
00:15:07.672 --> 00:15:11.120
Your kids can listen to this comic.
00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:14.149
What is one of your favorite jokes to tell?
00:15:14.149 --> 00:15:19.337
Do you have one that every single time you do a set, you use that same joke?
00:15:19.337 --> 00:15:23.361
Or maybe you tweak it a little bit, but which one is your?
00:15:29.988 --> 00:15:35.011
Hey friends, have you joined the Honest Christian Conversations online group yet?
00:15:35.011 --> 00:15:41.975
If you haven't, you're missing out on a perfect opportunity to grow your relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:15:41.975 --> 00:15:46.783
This is a community for those who want to go deeper in their relationship.
00:15:46.783 --> 00:15:50.831
Community for those who want to go deeper in their relationship.
00:15:50.831 --> 00:15:59.208
You can do Bible studies together, ask the questions you have biblically and get the answers that you might need or maybe you're somebody who has answers to somebody else's questions.
00:15:59.208 --> 00:16:00.695
You can leave your prayer requests.
00:16:00.695 --> 00:16:02.721
You can leave your praise reports.
00:16:03.283 --> 00:16:05.369
This is a community.
00:16:05.369 --> 00:16:06.793
This is what church is supposed to be.
00:16:06.793 --> 00:16:07.495
This is a community.
00:16:07.495 --> 00:16:15.222
This is what church is supposed to be, and I am so glad that I finally took that step to make this group so that people's lives can flourish in Jesus name.
00:16:15.222 --> 00:16:22.128
Also, if you haven't signed up for the mailing list, you're missing out on an opportunity there as well.
00:16:22.128 --> 00:16:39.706
I send out a weekly email chocked full of so much awesome content that I don't have time right now to share it all with you, but when you do sign up for that mailing list, you get my seven-day free devotional that I created just for those who sign up for the mailing list.
00:16:39.706 --> 00:16:51.336
If you haven't joined either of these, you can go to my website, honestchristianconversationscom and sign up there, or you can use the links for it in the show notes.
00:16:52.399 --> 00:17:05.563
I mean probably just when I immediately say I'm a pastor and then I just I try to create attention of just to relieve that, but just say, like I'm not going to force Jesus on you, people will laugh just from that.
00:17:05.563 --> 00:17:06.967
I don't want them to give the like.
00:17:10.714 --> 00:17:11.739
People will laugh just from that.
00:17:11.739 --> 00:17:28.954
I don't want them to give them like it's going to be like a bait and switch and try to have a moral lesson no-transcript.
00:17:28.954 --> 00:17:54.630
So it's had some harsh criticism but I am proud of you for continuing even still, because it I'm not the only one on stage that's struggling or it's crickets or stumbling over their words and so kind of.
00:17:54.630 --> 00:18:11.949
The sport of it is such a high challenge that it creates a common brotherhood and sisterhood of people of like, hey, you're trying to do something, I'm trying to do, and it's incredibly hard, and so that's what you know just allows you to freely talk about it.
00:18:12.460 --> 00:18:14.307
How did you become a pastor?
00:18:14.307 --> 00:18:16.428
Was that something you always wanted to be?
00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:18.763
No, like.
00:18:18.763 --> 00:18:24.669
I grew up in Dallas, texas, which there's like mega churches everywhere, but my parents divorced when I was young.
00:18:24.669 --> 00:18:25.964
I was raised by a single mom.
00:18:25.964 --> 00:18:29.028
We moved a lot and so no one ever came and knocked on our door.
00:18:29.028 --> 00:18:34.031
And I saw Christians at school, but they were basically going to the same parties that I was going to.
00:18:34.031 --> 00:18:41.864
So I just never had any interest, no exposure to the Bible.
00:18:41.884 --> 00:18:52.731
But towards the end of high school I had a friend that talked to me about Jesus relentlessly and through that the Lord used it to change my life and I didn't have really any interest in being a pastor.
00:18:52.731 --> 00:18:55.085
I feel like I kind of stumbled into it.
00:18:55.085 --> 00:19:04.193
I just in college I ended up at a church that had a high value of teaching you how to study the Bible and how to share it with others and how to talk about Jesus.
00:19:04.193 --> 00:19:07.221
And so I, just I did those things as a young 20 year old.
00:19:07.221 --> 00:19:11.767
And then they would say, well, how about you lead this team and how about you, you know, try to do this?
00:19:11.767 --> 00:19:20.919
And then the next thing, I know I was in seminary and I mean early on just kind of like looking around, like what am I doing?
00:19:20.919 --> 00:19:28.662
And yet the Lord has allowed me to be in this role for, you know, 20 years, and so, yeah, I mean I feel a little bit like a kind of a snowball.
00:19:28.862 --> 00:19:35.992
Well, god definitely uses us when we don't feel equipped for it, and then he shines through.
00:19:35.992 --> 00:19:37.134
Yeah, I'm glad.
00:19:37.134 --> 00:19:42.970
I'm glad you followed the calling and I'm pretty sure your church benefits well from that.
00:19:42.970 --> 00:19:51.076
How different was your first time preaching from your first time getting up to do comedy?
00:19:51.076 --> 00:19:52.420
That's a good question.
00:19:52.420 --> 00:19:54.160
It's probably pretty similar to do comedy.
00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:55.060
That's a good question.
00:19:55.080 --> 00:19:59.645
It's probably pretty similar Because I didn't plan on being a guy who taught the Bible every week.
00:19:59.645 --> 00:20:04.130
I was in a larger church and so I thought I was just going to be in a supportive role.
00:20:04.130 --> 00:20:11.017
And then, when I finished seminary, a church called me to be a pastor to college students where I would teach every Sunday.
00:20:11.017 --> 00:20:21.826
And I mean, probably after like three sermons I was like what else do I talk about?
00:20:21.826 --> 00:20:24.154
And the lead pastor was like you just teach the Bible, go to a book, go verse by verse and chapter by chapter.
00:20:24.154 --> 00:20:26.261
When I started to do that, there was an older man that was there.
00:20:26.261 --> 00:20:27.424
I think he was actually.
00:20:27.424 --> 00:20:32.386
I never verified this, but people told me that he actually was on an old comedy show called Hee Haw.
00:20:32.406 --> 00:20:35.729
I don't know if you ever heard of that, so it's like he actually was on an old comedy show called Hee Haw.
00:20:35.729 --> 00:20:36.513
I don't know if you ever heard of that.
00:20:36.513 --> 00:20:37.460
I heard the name but never actually seen it.
00:20:37.819 --> 00:20:43.353
And as I was walking out, he said that sermon wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
00:20:43.353 --> 00:20:47.828
So I was like I don't think that's a compliment.
